Poor victim

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@302shmed Some people do swim in shirt, and most people did it 100 years ago. So it is not hard of impossible.

@302shmed in till eary 19th century, most people used to wear long gowns and shirt near beaches, it was considered crime to go shirtless near some beaches.

I know the struggle, but the same modesty rules apply whether you’re at the beach or not. There are modest options, but don’t expect them to look good.

@Sharon Cullen Art I think when you present it like that compared to your previous comments that makes sense and it makes me feel better. But I must say that I too believe that like physical movements, sex, money are not to be of evil but can be a blessing when done right according to scripture. Yet, unfortunately many fall and stumble into belief systems and practices which they don’t understand can slowly lead them into deception. And that’s where I see many Christians fail to comprehend that one must be in the world but not of the world, and therefore reading your previous comments made me want to address this concern to you.

@Kevin I am sorry for your loss of faith. Mine is very strong, and I do not do yoga! I’m disabled. I couldn’t do it if wanted to. I used to, but it is not the movement that is the problem in yoga which was my point. It is the spiritual basis of it that is the problem. God does not care how we move our bodies to stretch. He cares about our beliefs, and how we treat others. Movement is not sacrilege. Beliefs can be. I think I have proved my point. And I have gone through a 4 year program on theology and the study of every single chapter of the Bible and I understand it well. I also understand the Catechism of the Catholic Church well. So don’t worry about me.

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Otherwise, modesty isn’t about protecting people from their lustful nature. It’s about subjugating women and elevating men. It’s about a separate standard and level or protection offered to one sex and not the other. If you truly believe that modesty is an action of protection and love, then live that. Men, dress modestly, too.

@YallCrazy You won’t find it, because everyone ignores it, which is exactly my point. Apparently men don’t owe their sisters in Christ the courtesies they themselves demand.

Can you tell me what it’s like to wander around not having to worry about what you wear and how it affects others? You see, I wouldn’t know, because I’m a woman, and everything from what I wear when working out, to pants vs skirts vs dresses, to swimwear, to the length of or absence of sleeves and the cut of my clothing, invites dissection, judgment and criticism that I’m “letting down my brothers” and “causing them to stumble,” while my brothers can wear muscle ts, or go without shirts entirely with little to no consideration for the women around them.

Must be nice.

Looking for where they said men don’t have to dress modestly

@Real Catholic Teaching The statement “women be submissive to your husbands” is the only thing you could find because it is the only thing there is. There is nothing in Church teaching that “women are supposed to be submissive” in any general sense. This was referring only to a relationship between husband and wife, it is not found in any other context nor is anything that relies entirely on one quote a very good case regardless of the topic.

I do think that perhaps a lot of women are just ignorant. Don’t forget that we live in a culture where you cant even raise these topics without being labelled some kind of sexist. Though it makes me angry too, I must confess.

@Pixel Fan Yes I agree. The love that comes from Christ gives a sense of dignity and self-respect that the ones who wear these horrible garments seem to me to be missing!

@Not Amused Most do wear this kind of outfits to get the attention they need because the are not filled with goods love! 🙁

Alot of the ones wearing them, especially the underage young ones, haven’t a clue how immodest clothing affects men and why would they if their mothers haven’t warned them? I’m old enough to know it on an intellectual level but I still can’t empathise because, being a woman, visuals just don’t affect me in the same way they do men and I’m hetero so all I feel when I see these horrible garments is annoyed! I can’t empathise with men on this issue because I can never be affected the way ye are; I can never share your experience! I can only sympathise with the decent men who are uncomfortable about it!
For underage girls, it’s not even a consideration because they have no idea what men think or feel and why would they? They are naive and innocent! Older young ones may know the effects from what men say and do and some of them do use this knowledge and play on it, but they still can’t empathise. Mothers need to teach their daughters about modesty but it seems to me, many mothers of young girls today just don’t care that their daughters would be being oggeled and leered at by perverts, never mind that most poor men are decent and don’t want to be surrounded by half-dressed young ones and are very uncomfortable about it, especially at Mass!

@Anna This looks good to my eyes: La Isla Women’s One Piece Floral Print Swimsuit with Skirt. If you want to show nothing at all than go for Burkini.